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Welcome to our class blog on Lord of the Flies! Be sure to read eachother's posts and respond to any posts that you feel strongly about. Be appropriate, kind, mature, and considerate at all times. May your integrity be evident in your posts and responses. Have fun!
Golding intended the death of Simon to show how savage and primitive the boys have become. It was almost like they were in a trance while they killed him, as if they didn't even know they were doing it. I believe Simon's encounter with the lord of the flies made him understand that the boys were becoming that savage and they themselves were becoming the beast.
ReplyDeleteBecause of Simon’s interaction with the lord of the Flies, it made Simon realize that the ”government” the boys had created was not strong enough to withhold all of the many personalities, which suddenly was presented to the boys. When the Lord of the Flies spoke to Simon, he kept taunting him by saying “you’re a silly boy now aren’t you?” Simon knew that when the Lord was comparing him to all of the evils on the Island including the lord himself, he knew that if he would show the boys the real identity of the beast than maybe the evil would subside creating peace once more on the island. While Simon spoke to the Lord of the Flies, Jack and his tribe were having a feast trying to celebrate their sacrifice to the Lord of the Flies. When Piggy and Ralph entered their feast while it began to rain. When Ralph told them that they do not have any shelter to stay in while it rained, Jack ordered his hunters to do the hunting dance. While they got so caught up in the dance (almost showing the barbarian side to human nature) and they began to chant kill the beast. Because they were in such a daze, when Simon came down to tell them the beast was only a man, they began killing him because they could not recognize him. Simon could not last on this island because when the beast was found, it created a damnation amongst the island. Since Simon is represented as the pure hearted boy on the island, when their government started showing “evil”, Simon knew that it would only get worse before the peace got any better, and Simon knew that he could not last on the island as it got worse.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Gabriella about the boys ‘government” being corrupted and the issue of balancing the good and the evil on the island. Simon had to die in order to keep that balance. His purity would over power the evil on the island. This would then bring the boys to reality shattering all their dream of survival. Also, I believe Simon was forced to die. I believe this because Simon being so pure he could not live in the "government" that the boys created. The only place Simon truly belongs is in a place as pure as he is (heaven). Lastly, Simon is the only boy who really understood their situation and their surrounding. If he is no longer there evil can completely over take the boys “government” and state of mind.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Willy, the boys are becoming more and more chaotic. They have all of course realized that its not all just a game. Simon dying shows how the boys and the island are sinking deeper into chaos. Simon was the only good boy in the whole island, his opposite was Jack. Simon could not survive, he didn't have the same primitive or violent nature that the rest of the boys did. What The Lord of the Flies alluded was true, that the boys are becoming the beast. Now that Simon is dead, there is almost absolutely no hope for the rest of the boys.
ReplyDeleteI think that the beast on the island is really the evil that is blossoming inside of the boys. Also, Simon is portrayed as a christ-like figure because of how he is always helping others and he never believes in the beast. Simon was supposed to be killed because it shows that the island is now in complete chaos which parallels the huge war happening outside of the island. Something interesting at the end of the chapter is when Simon is surrounded by sea foam and the moonlight creates an aura around him making him seem pure or even holy.
ReplyDeleteSimon could no longer survive on the island because like willy said, the boys were in a "trance" when simon came into their place and they could not stop pretending to be hunters and kill the "pig" in this case it was Simon. Simon was to pure to be able to survive on his own without the violent nature of the other boys. The death of Simon is appropriate to the authors intention because it shows how the other kids are becoming savages and are caught up almost in the whole hunting for themselves and keeping themselves alive
ReplyDeletei think everyody pretty much naile it on the head by saying that the boys are getting more "savage" or "primative" I think the boys are kind of caught up in some type of other world where this is right because i think it says (correct me if im wrong) sometime after they actually kill him that they run away and just move on. so if they move on after something like that then the island really has changed them, because they couldnt even kill i pig in the beginning now they can kill one of their own if the boys dont come back together and realize what their doing is crazy then wn their just "playing" this little game mre people are going to get hurt...
ReplyDeleteThe death of Simon was a very significant part of chapter 10 and it shows the savageness of what the kids have become. The kids referred to him as the beast and when they where killing him they chanted,"Kill the beast, cut his throat, spill his blood". they killed him just like a pig. Before simon died he was going crazy and talking to the island like when he asks the island,"what else is there to do"? I think this is like the movie Cast Away when Tom Hanks talks to a ball named wilson. The island is starting to make all of the kids go insane.
ReplyDeleteit shows how the boys have just lost all aspects of their old lives and reverted back toi the savage and primitive lifestyles from wich it took man thousands of years to evolve from. its a battle of good vs evil where the good cant exist. that means that they have to hols on to some hopeof their previous ways in order to even stand a chance to prevail. simons death showed a glimpse into the appocalypse. its the what happens when the last pure hope for mans existance dies.
ReplyDeleteThe Lord of the Flies told Simon that the real beast on the island was the boys themselves. Their state of mind was the most dangerous thing. In this book, Simon represents good, purity, and lovingness. Because Simon does not fit the dangerous mind set, he is killed. Simon can no longer survive on the island because the 'beast' has taken over. It shoes that good does not win the battle of good vs. evil, evil defeats good in having the boys kill Simon.
ReplyDeleteGolding made Simon be the character who stayed calm and always did the right thing.On the other hand the rest of the boys just wanted to have fun, hunt, and pick sides between Jack and Ralph. Simon showed that he was a good person by providing for the younger kids and helping the dead man stuck in the tree. As time on the island went by, Simon started to go ''crazy''. He thought that the boars head on the stick was talking to him, when it was really all in his head. Simon knew the whole time that there was no beast, but everyone eles insisted that there was. Simon would not have surived since he was the only one that knew that there was no beast and he wouldn't have been able to change the others minds. If he had lived the boys might have deserted him by himself because they would have thought he was crazy and had no idea what he was talking about. Since the other boys are so excited in there fear they would kill anything they saw thinking it was the beast, and that's what happened to Simon.
ReplyDeleteGolding intended that Simon die at this point in the book to not only show how savage and primitive the boys have become but also to show that the struggle to maintain sanity has been completely lost. Each and every day these boys are stuck on the island, the island destroys their sanity little by little. For instance at the beginning, jack did not have the courage to kill the pig but a short time later he had no problem with it and gloated to his friends. Not long after that, they kill pigs mercilessly and put Robert in their ceremony and hurt him. Now their climax as of yet is their act of killing Simon using their same bloodthirsty dance. The death of Simon is just another notch on the totem pole. As I said in some of my earlier blogs the longer they drift away from society the stronger this urge becomes to be like savages. This is exactly what the lord of the flies told Simon during his hallucination. This is a battle of good versus evil and Simon has lost that battle to the lord of the flies. Simon was chosen to be the lord of the flies cause of his mother like figure and nurturing actions. For example he shows this when he gives the fruit in the trees to the boys that were too short to reach them. Simon represents the elements of the old life and he was killed by the newfound primal impulses of the boys that was created by the evil.
ReplyDeleteand bree wow... thats long haha
ReplyDeleteI think the death of simon shows how the boys have completely transformed into the beasts and how they are going to cause complete chaos on the island. When Simon had his encounter with the lord of the flies, the lord of the flies flat out told him that the boys themselves were the beasts and that they were going to cause the downfall of the island. Simon symbolized pureness so when he hallucinated the Lord of the Flies, it was good versus evil. The only way that the good could defeat the evil was through Simon who knew all along that the boys were the beast. Simon did not have the opportunity to tell the boys because they themselves killed him. Because both Ralph and Piggy did not do anything to stop the other boys, all the pureness that was on the island is now gone. Now the fight is evil versus evil which will cause chaos and corruption on the island, and most likely lead to most, if not all, of the boys' deaths.
ReplyDeleteJust in case Ms. Loughney wasnt sure. this is will
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