CHAPTER 4 PROMPT:
“Here, invisible yet strong, was the taboo of the old life. Round the squatting child was the protection of parents and school and policemen and the law. Roger’s arm was conditioned by a civilization that knew nothing of him and was in ruins.”
Discuss the significance of this quotation and how it applies to the novel thus far.
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This quote is significant so in the boook so far because it is symbolizing how the children realize that what has happened is real. Usually each child would have someone to look out for them and watch over them or protect them from unsafe things. Now, the kids realize that they don't have anyone to lookout for them except eachother. So, when Roger is throwing sand at Pericival he realizes that him and the rest of the boys need to stick together and watch out for eachother because there is no one else who will do the job.
ReplyDeleteI think this quotation applies to how there is no authority over the Kids. there isn't any adults to help or guild them on the civilization the have created on the island. "Rogers arm was conditioned by a civilization that knew nothing f him and was in ruins". Roger can do anything he really wants too. Only authority on the island is Ralph and the conch shell. The kids can easily overthrow Ralph's power over the island.
ReplyDeleteI believe that this quotation shows the same sort of unwillingness by the kids to accept their situationa and same hope of returning home that we have seen before. Even though the kids are literally stranded on this island and the chances of returning home are slim, the kids seem to carry hope. This particular quotation is showing that the kids keep the same society and rules that they had in their old home when they land on the island. They are unable to accept the reality that they really are on this island and they keep the same sense of authority even though there truely isn't anyone to rule them. They still expect punnishments for wrong-doings and still expect someone to rule over them. The kids still do not want to believe they are truely stranded on this island.
ReplyDeleteThe quotation is significant because it shows how the children can not accept the reality of being stuck on the island and change. There only chance so far was the boat and since they miss that their chances are even slimmer. Also the quotation shows the fear of change. The children keep the same society as they had before on their home land. There is one authority figure, Ralph, and they use the same rules that they had from home, the government, and school. As a result the children assume that there would be punishment if they due not follow the rules. The children are mainly afraid of change because once they change their ways they will have to accept reality. Their hopes of getting home safely would be crush and they would be in a depressed state. If the children do not accept reality soon then serve consequences will happen.
ReplyDeleteThis quotation is significant because earlier when Roger is about to throw the rock at the Henry, the author speaks of a zone of protection around Henry. This zone of protection is a metaphor for the lessons that were taught to him. These lessons were taught to him in the "old life". This idea is significant to the novel so far because if all "zones of protection" were forgotten or lost, the island would be complete chaos.
ReplyDeleteThis quotation is significant because Rogger is explaining how life on the island is kind of like its invisible or has disappeared because the children have no protection and they have no more boundaries. This quote is also significant because now the children have to realize that what they thought was a game or joke is real and they have no way of turning back time to change it so each child must look out for one another.
ReplyDeleteThe quote is significant because it is saying that the kids, still believe that if they do something wrong that they are going to get punished for it. Also, there is still some sort of "authority figure" in the book and the Conch is something that they have to listen to. But, Roger seemed to realize that they are not in a a society anymore that you cannot really get punished. He realizes he is doing something wrong but he keeps on doing it.
ReplyDeleteI think that instead of the quote meaning that the kids are unwilling to accept that they are really stranded on the island, it means that they simply haven't really figured out what being on the island means for them. There have been several past instances where the boys follow rules from back home just because it is an ingrained habit, when really they have nothing forcing them to follow the rules. The quote might foreshadow the kids realizing that they have nothing keeping them from doing whatever they want. Their only authority figure is a simple shell from a pond, and as soon as they start to realize that nothing is ruling over them, things on the island will turn chaotic.
ReplyDeleteThis quote is significant because it shows how even though the circumstances have dramatically changed, the boundaries set in the kids old life still affect them. To me this means that the kids don't understand how the island affects them and they don't realize how alone they really are. This applies to the novel because even though Roger isn't hitting Henry he is still throwing the coconuts and this shows how the barriers of the old life are breaking down. This could also foreshadow a time when the older kids start to break the habit of their old life.
ReplyDeletei think that this quattaion is important because it shows how the kids were so used to having adults to protect them and take care of them and now they"re starting to realize that they are on their own. it mentions how the old life was like a taboo.this is becasue none of them want to get used to the facts that they have to survive on their own. also it says how the civilizatio knew nothing of them and was in ruin. this might mean that they dont know they have crashed and help might never come or it could mean that the civilization they knew was destroyed. this is why i think this quote is signifigant and applies to the novel thus far.
ReplyDeletei think this quote is significant because the kids are really realizing that this is real and have to learn to survive on their own. They have no one to look out for them and when this quote comes up he realized that nothing is going to stop him if he did because their own thier own.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Courtney in saying that the children are so used to having all of the listed people look after them. But since this is a real life situation where those people aren't there to sheild the child from the harshness of reality, it's time for him/her to learn how to make decisions for theirself reguarding their well being.
ReplyDeleteThis quote is significany because the children miss the civilzation that they once knew. Now they are accepting and adapting to there new surrondings. The children are realizing that they are out alone and have to surive. Roger also know's that he can do what he wants, since no one is stopping him. By Roger doing what he wants makes it so there really is no protection for the children.
ReplyDeletei also agree with courtney and the idea that the kids are having trouble coming to reality with the fact that no adults are around anymore. The kids are still playing the situation off but as time goes on reality is starting to hit them. And when they do come to the reality of it there will most likely be confusion because none of them really know what to do and how to survive on their own.
ReplyDeletei have to agree with Courtney and will, cause they aren't used to the fact they are stranded on the island. they refer to the tribes' survival as "a game," therefore they don't want to realize they are stranded. also, the kids were used to the authority of adults stopping them from getting into trouble, but now since there is no adult figure present, the power/urge to act bad is large.
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